13 May 2009 @ 08:28 pm
SPN VID: Goodnight, demon slayer [ GEN ]  
Title: Goodnight, demon slayer
Vidder: [livejournal.com profile] mithborien
Details: Supernatural | 4.52 | "Goodnight, demon slayer" by Voltaire

Of course you should be afraid of the dark. You know what's out there.

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Large (.avi 43mb): Mediafire
Small (.avi 16mb): Mediafire




Goodnight demon slayer from Thorien on Vimeo.


Password: goodnight

Notes: I'm posting this vid now because I just didn't think we had enough angst at the end of the season... *cries*

But I am so happy with the way this vid turned out. I had a lot of fun making it, and the massive thirty something page word doc I had as a plan probably helped a lot with that in the sense that it cut down last minute problems. And hell, I even had fun planning out that word doc for the vid and matching all the clips up.

However, I do have to thank [livejournal.com profile] waldorph who inspired me to make this vid by suggesting the song idea in an Inspiration post on [livejournal.com profile] spn_sceneit (and thanks to that comm as well, it's awesome). So this vid can be dedicated to you because I wouldn't have made this, nor had as much fun making it if you hadn't put the idea in my head first.

I also ramble on more about my vid-making process here.


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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/ on May 15th, 2009 12:52 pm (UTC)
Very awesome! Loved how much you showcased them as kids. It really nailed the horror of their young lives, especially juxtaposed against a seemingly upbeat song. Nicely done.

I can't believe I've never heard it before. I'm boggling no one did a BtVS vid to it. *lol*

Also, I'm a behind the scenes gal, so your notes about this helpful word doc interest me. Do you have a set structure for it? Or was it more a scratch pad? I was hoping you'd go into more detail about using it, if you don't mind.

Again, wonderful vid!
[identity profile] mithborien.livejournal.com on May 16th, 2009 09:35 am (UTC)
Thankyou :D

I happy to talk about the word doc I use. Essentially, it's just the lyrics of the song typed out with the relative clips for each line written underneath.

Generally, with vids I make I only have a vague idea of where clips should go beforehand. I'll have some main ideas, like with this vid I know I wanted to contrast Dean picking up the gun in Something Wicked with the YED getting shot in AHBL. And I'll know the main idea or narrative of the vid, for example with this one, I wanted to contrast Sam and Dean as young kids with all the horrors of hunting, like a nightmare if you will. But the rest of the clip placement I have no clue so I find that if I have a word doc with everything laid out I am better able to figure out what clips should go where and how to relate clips together.

And I found that if I don't have the vid planned out and just vid on the fly then I get a vid that's less cohesive. There have been some exceptions to this which I can go into if you want but generally if I have a plan the vid goes smoother, since I can listen to the song, read through my notes and see the vid playing in my head before I get bogged down in all the technical editing.

So with this vid, to go into more detail, what I did was get the lyrics to the song like I said above and marked in all the main clip ideas that I had. Then what I do is write down a list of clips that I think will be useful for the vid. Which can be tedious but it works for me. SO for this vid I was looking for things related to childhood like toys, monsters related to kids, etc. And I was also looking for clips where you couldn't see people's faces especially adults. So keeping those things in mind I was able to come up with a long list of clips that I could use. Then I grouped them into related clips or clips I wanted to contrast against each other and began placing them against the lyrics. Sometimes I print things out and hand write them in but that just depends on the mood I'm in.

So finally I have a word doc with my vid all planned out. This helps me with a few other things. It give me a list of clips that I need to rip, since the way I write the clips means I can sort alphabetically and have a list of clips from each episode in sequential order. It also means that theoretically I won't have to stop in the middle of vidding to rip more clips since I have ripped all the clips I need beforehand. Since once I start actually placing the clips in the vid I don't want to stop. And it also means that when I start vidding I can see how the final vid is working as whole because I know what's going to happen in the parts of the song I haven't placed clips or edited them.

Sometimes my final vid will change from the plan. I delete clips or remember a better one to use. But I just find having a vid planned out completely means I can look at the vid as a whole and see what's working and what's not.

And whoa, I rambled on a lot but you did say you wanted detail :P But if you want to actually see the word doc I used for this vid then I'll be happy to upload it somewhere for you.
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/ on May 19th, 2009 07:40 am (UTC)
Wow, this is fabulous! Thank you.

I used to use a lyric print out but it didn't really seem to work for me once I got in the editing program. So I floundered around mostly. *lol* So yeah, this was great. I liked the detail about how you choose clips, that's something I struggle with. I'm totally going to save this in my memories.

If it isn't too much bother, I'd love to see an example!

[identity profile] mithborien.livejournal.com on May 21st, 2009 01:13 pm (UTC)
Okay, normally this ends up being just one word doc but in my final copy I had deleted the clip groupings and I figured you would want to see those.
So this file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/63fu0d) is my lyric/vid guide. Normally, it isn't so precisely set out with the tables but this just happened to be a long vid with a lot of clips so I wanted to keep things organised. And this file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/c4nmym) shows my long list of clips that I thought of and then how I grouped them to eventually place against the lyrics.

Now that I think about it, once I got the clips grouped it was actually easy to place against the lyrics because each clip group went to a specific part of the song ie. clips relating to their parents went with the chorus.

I think having the word doc prevents me from floundering once I get to the editing program because I fool myself into knowing what I'm doing because I have a plan and I feel more capable of playing around with clips in the program because I have that plan to fall back. The only times where I haven't floundered when making a vid without a word doc plan was when the vid was very linear in narrative like Come Alive (http://mithborien.livejournal.com/87984.html) and to an extent Woman King (http://mithborien.livejournal.com/90367.html). Woman King was interesting because I had actually laid out that vid without a plan, then realised I had run out of time and the flow wasn't working. Then something went wrong with my computer and I could open the project file anymore and so I had to start from scratch. But since I had all ready placed the clips once, I had a better idea of what I had to work with and I was able to time and weave the clips together better. But that wasn't exactly easy and not a process I would recommend for creating a vid. Though it did work.
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_sharvie_/ on June 6th, 2009 12:29 pm (UTC)
I so meant to get back to this sooner. I totally don't want you to feel like you wasted your time uploading those docs. But you know how RL gets sometimes.....

Anyway, I totally loved this! Thank you!! I'm such a behind the scenes gal, it's crazy. I just love to see how the nuts and bolts fit together, so this is wonderful. It's great to see how someone likes to lay things out. And thanks so much for the docs. I put them in my vid tutorial folder so I'll definitely being using them as a guide if I ever get back to vidding.

Thanks again! :D You totally rock!
[identity profile] mithborien.livejournal.com on June 6th, 2009 01:43 pm (UTC)
That's all right, I'm terrible at replying at comments unless I get the notice when I'm physically at the computer.

But I'm glad you liked the docs :)