Mithborien - I have a question about reccing vids

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19 July 2022 @ 04:36 pm

I have a question about reccing vids

What are people's opinions on embedding vids in a post when making a rec-list?

Technically, you are not reposting the vid since all the views still go to the original video in the way that reposting a piece of fanart does not. But if I was reccing a piece of fanart, I wouldn't embed the image in my post so is it the same for fanvids or is it different because there is actual embed functionality.

I ask because I feel that embedding the videos makes the post more interesting (instead of just being a wall of text) and people are therefore more likely to watch the vids.

I've never seen a discussion about this so I don't know if I'm just worrying about something that no one cares about. But I also live under a rock in fandom and miss many a conversion.

I know I could also individually check with all the vidders first but I'm going to be honest, that just isn't something I have the time for or even want to spend the time doing.

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kingstoken on July 19th, 2022 09:13 am (UTC)

I usually embed vids, I think someone is more likely to click them and give them a look then just including links, especially since some vids have nice title cards that were designed to catch a person's attention. I think the whole point is trying to get as many people as possible to see this amazing vid you love, and I know as a sometime vidder I always want more views.

I think I only time I wouldn't embed is if you are making a really long rec list, like a post with 2-5 embedded vids is fine, a post with thirty would be a little too much. In the case of really long rec lists maybe embed a few key vids and add links for the rest.

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mithborien on July 20th, 2022 09:10 am (UTC)

Yeah, showing off the title cards is also something I wanted to do as well!

And yeah, the whole point of rec lists is to increase the views on the particular fanworks so I feel we should make it as easy as possible to view it.

You're also right about not embedding every vid on a long reclist but I think for vids its probably better to keep the number of vids low anyway, and split the reclist up into multiple parts (at least I think that is what I am planning to do in the future). It's not like you are going to be watching all the vids at once anyway.

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aurumcalendula on July 19th, 2022 10:29 am (UTC)

I don't think I've seen a discussion either.

Personally, I would still include a link to AO3/a vid post in case the vid gets blocked or something, and might put embeds under a cut (like I do with photos).

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mithborien on July 20th, 2022 08:54 am (UTC)

I realise now that I forgot to mention in the post that I would still be including a link to AO3 / vid post, it wouldn't be just the embed. I like including the vid title, vidder and summary. I'm just considering including the embed as an additional item.

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lilly_the_kid on July 19th, 2022 02:59 pm (UTC)

I usuallyonly post links when I rec vids, because I want people to find the creator and maybe even comment at their post. People might be more likely to watch an embed, but the creator might never know about it. Embedding also kind of feels like reposting to me, but that's just my impression/feeling.

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mithborien on July 20th, 2022 09:01 am (UTC)

Yeah, that was my other concern that I didn't mention in the post, I don't want people to watch the vid and then comment with feedback for it on my post. However, I've had that happen even when I just post links so it's not completely avoidable.

I'm thinking about adding additional notes reminding people to comment on the actual vid post as well.

I agree that embedding feels like reposting, which is why I made this post. I know I personally wouldn't care if my vids get embedded in a post but I really have no idea what everyone else thinks.

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amalthia on July 19th, 2022 05:55 pm (UTC)

I'm more likely to watch if it's embedded but I do like if there is a link back to original post so I can leave feedback.

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mithborien on July 20th, 2022 09:01 am (UTC)

I forgot to mention this in my post but I would still definitely be including links to the original post and the vidders name. The embed is just a bonus!

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yourlibrarian on July 20th, 2022 12:52 am (UTC)

I guess I've never seen a rec list that had embedded vids but I have sometimes done so (under a cut) on my own personal posts when I've run across one. However this is rare since usually my recs appear in rec posts and it's non-fanwork stuff I end up embedding.

I can't say I have anything negative to say about it though. It could be handy, and especially if the person in question doesn't seem to have a DW (or AO3) account, I don't see why not. An embed will still link people to the YouTube or Vimeo page.

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mithborien on July 20th, 2022 09:05 am (UTC)

Yeah, I feel like no one would bat an eye if you are embedding non-fandom stuff, the share options are there for a reason. But fandom always seems to have slightly different rules that RL. And I feel that an "official" rec list that I might make for a specific theme, is different to a one-off rec in a journal post.

I forgot to mention in the post that I would still be including a link to AO3 or the original vid post, so its not a case of the embed replacing that, its just an additional thing.

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alba17 on July 20th, 2022 03:03 pm (UTC)

It never occurred to me that this would be a problem. I figure if you post a vid on a site that provides embeddable code, you're aware that people might use it. If you don't want a vid shared in that way, don't post it on that site or make it shareable only with link or private.

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colls on July 20th, 2022 07:27 pm (UTC)

I think posting a rec with the embedded vid is fine, the embed can direct people to the creator.
Since we're in DW/AO3 spaces here, it'd be common to link the creators post as well - as you've mentioned.

TBH, I don't know of any vidder who'd be upset about having a vid rec'd regardless of how it's posted. Like others have said, if they don't want their vids embedded or links elsewhere, they could disable the feature.

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